Indeed, last year brought us a wave of new rides to froth over, from enduro bikes with integrated shocks to bespoke high-pivot frames. First image in the gallery: https://m.vitalmtb.com/photos/member/PIT-BITS-USDH-National-Snowshoe-West-Virginia,13128/PIT-BITS-USDH-National-Snowshoe-Isak-Leivssons-Latest-Creation,141380/JackRice,44569. Allow Necessary Cookies & Continue It is definitely possible, and I do feel a whole lot happier that I'm pushing this bike to the decade mark, enough to where I'm quite content about the amount of carbon bling it has acquired over the years. Sure, but it ain't a deal breaker. This is particularly challenging for Yeti owners will multiple bikes as one updated Yeti is always a harbinger to pending updates to the entire lineup. Now that said, I have a lyric ultimatewith a slight creak for sale. Im a big fan of DHR in the front and minion SS out back. Have you ridden it, does it roll ok? So true. Really? 4. Like pepper said though, I recently put a 180mm Boxxer Deluxe on my Meta and love it I havent weighed it yet but it doesnt seem to weigh any more than the lyric ultimate it replaced. I've got no plans to get a new bike in 2021. MT5 has two blade shapes (HC and straight). A coil shock is tempting though and its funny how varied our options are, from a $300 marzocchi to an EXT storia for the price of some frames. An OEM boxxer or suntour/dorado if I can find one cheap, will grace the front and I will be a happy boy. FWIW I believe CP is running a single crown fork most of the time these days. I can see some benefits. If you run anything other than Shimao or SRAM you more or less have to stock all your own spares. TL;DR most people don't need new bikes they need to actually understand the one they're really on, which is so often a matter of tuning. He said was OK when I asked him. It looks fantastic setup that way. 2022 saw Specialized Gravitys Finn Iles take his first elite World Cup win onboard a prototype Specialized Demo downhill bike. Is it time for a more meaningful update, then? Thanks for the update! He kept looking back and stood up to sprint. 1.5 crown folk, revenge of the nerd brands, too ;-). It seems like the perfect time to chill those product development cycles a little bit since bikes are amazing and selling them isn't exactly a current challenge that requires constant 'innovation.' I'm amazed that the cycling Industry / brands as a whole has generally turned its back on the thriving second hand market that exists AfterBuy The Bike You Already Own went live I gamed a lot of ways I could follow it up with a real build. It's fine. Between designing dual crown forks for the (slightly) lighter applications v. bike park / DH racing and the integrated stems the weight difference would be even less than it is now and I don't feel that's a big deal. The prototype Dissent has already seen a fair share of success, landing a spot on the World Cup podium under the young Irish ripper Ronan Dunne and taking the win at a very wet Crankworx Rotorua downhill piloted by Louise Ferguson. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. That falls into my "too slack / weird BB height" category. Ive searched the Googles and havent found a leak or any confirmed details. Points taken away for complexity and proprietary tools. According to the Californians, it will provide "unimaginable trail and adventure fun". Or lack thereof. I think pinkbike hasmd some articles about not only this, but the other participants if the challenge, too. I do feel like 12x148mm sticking around has merit, as much as I hated it before, the fact that I can boostinate my 12x142mm hardware actually makes that a comparatively more appealing option, even though I feel that 12x157 was practically a better bit of solution space to the same problem, especially if we accepted that we'd be changing standards on freehubs and crank Q anyway, we'd already have viable 14-speed drivetrains. I saw Morgan the other day and thought he'd stolen your bike. Their 'trail' weight casings have a neat sidewall insert. 2019 to 2021 Turbo Levo - 2023 Levo | EMTB Forums S5. Specializeds current XC Race Bike is the Epic, a 100mm travel carbon frame benefiting from flexible seat stays; it was last updated in 2021. Sign up to receive BikeRumor content direct to your inbox. I think the steep actual seat tubes matter more than effective, being long of leg - right direction, but I feel like many designs (especially bent seat tube) designs are really just making up a deficiency in that for somebody with a 34" or longer inseam, the realistic eSTA was <69 in old designs, it's now finally in the 71-73 range for those bikes, and people are just misinterpreting that. Best decision i've ever made, everything is super reliable and fixable (mostly by me as an added benefit). Specialized's new Enduro is biggerway bigger. Two skins in an air sealed package was enough for four bicycle levers. For me, youre out of contention for going mullet with a 130/120 bike. All 2023 mtb mountain bikes news info photo rumors review preview I should specify re. Will you deny it?! It's too bad because otherwise, I know a few folks who would own an Onyx DC fork. Ride Abbey Road & Yellow Submarines with the State Bicycle Co. x The Beatles Collection, Reynolds Renew Blacklabel 307 & 309 Wheels with More Compliance for Better Tracking, Airplane Mode: OneUp Build New Squamish Trail & Raise $44,000 for Trails Associations. Disagree: I'd rather see a bike come with adjustable CS. I'd just get what you can get now, next year's stuff is probably going to be more expensive and not necessarily better. Very surprising for anything other than a DH bike even then wheel and frame stiffness arent issues carbon/carbon so why not get some extra clearance?! but this is the bike industry and fixing what ain't broke is fifty percent of what we do. From seasoned pros and weekend warriors, to kids and commutersif you ride, we're for you. Given the extra machining we can see on the RockShox SID fork crown, were willing to bet thats a new, lighter model. Will brake manufacturers have brakes designed specifically to route internally with one-piece bar/stem combos, as we saw on Lars Foresters World Cup race bike at Snow Shoe? Press Release Lets Build a Jump Trail On a OneUp lunch ride back in 2017, we decided to build a new jump trail in Squamish.. Bikerumor Copyright 2013 2023. 120mm forks with custom Rx-tuned valving complete EVO's . Personally, I'll take a pair of Magura MT 5/7, Formula Cura 4, or Hayes Dominion brakes but the thing about the Code is they deliver a similarly excellent amount of power and they're everywhere stock on bikes. To conquer rough trails as fast as humanly possible, the Epic EVO maintains ultra-efficient pedaling manners, but trades the Brain in favor of an Rx-tuned metric shock. I'll probably just throw Saint brakes at my already 203/180mm rotor setup, and keep rocking 11spd XT and eTRS Cassette, because I can't be bothered to find an issue with how awesome that setup has been for me. It would just be a rather expensive experiment if I ended up not liking it better than my current setup, and would go against my if it aint broke dont fix it or replace it mentality. I think the industry has gone too long (front centre) to add stability without lengthening chainstays and the cranked seat angles (effective) to shorten the seated position so theyre still rideable. The composite levers of the MT5s are also nicer when it's cold out. With the right build, the additional weight would be roughly the equivalent of going down a few spec levels on most current rigs. I'm 5'10. Now, you can say that both options should be regularly checked as part of a routine bolt/safety check but my perspective as someone who sometimes works on bikes as a job is that plenty of riders don't. You're going to choose differently depending on whether your main choice is Cypress DH or Seymour Shore-XC or something in between. Santa Cruz has been busy this off-season, building up test mules of its V10 downhill bike for its riders to decide between the tried and tested VPP (Virtual Pivot Point) suspension design and the new high-pivot trend. I built it up thinking it would be a longer-than-I-need trail bike for local riding in Oregon and really shine for trips north to BC. Three big companies will set up a fund for e-mtb friendly trail networks but then Covid 47 will strike and Ivanka Trump will be the new queen of England, after marrying a freshly divorced English prince whom she met on a half sunk scottish Trump golf course at a anti-climate-change cup. Could we see GT reverting back to a traditional chain line in 2023 for better all-round performance? Other - 2022 Kenevo SL Rumours .. | EMTB Forums What will 2023 bring . The only three things you mention that don't resonate with me are dual crown forks, bigger brakes and long CS. Theres one on the front page of NSMB right now if youre interested. But, but, but which brake for the Sea to Sky ? Yep its a vintage . I've seen plenty of cracked hub shells from drive efforts; however, even looking at the cheapest 6-bolt hubs being abused way beyond their intended market I have yet to see a catastrophic failure of a rotor mount. Due to a neoprene frame cover, the prototypes suspension design is completely open to speculation, although it looks unlikely to be a high-pivot system. Matts still in Whistler (or was early December) Ben lives here and they moved to a space down here late last year. Will we see a new production Demo in time for the 2023 downhill World Cup season and will it use the tube and lug design spotted on the prototype? By 2030 the industry will start to realize that bikers need trail access in order to have need for new bikes. _"Technology is a good thing as it keeps us riding for more years than what we thought when we got into this game." Ive never read a real reason why steep seat tube angles are said to be more efficient. Thanks guys! Suddenly there were small wheels for some applications and big wheels for other applications. The only problem is the simple single pivots + a good shock would have easily competed with the multi-link bikes for way less money. That's great, but at some point you have to balance being able to pedal well vs. having the longest bike possible. Have you seen the Moorhuhn? Components - Brakes, 5. It climbs better longer and I didnt really notice any lack of (Puke) playfulness either. As someone who rides a Trek with a knock block I can confirm that the lack of turn radius is a non issue. The technology has existed for ages to make very small, much lower wattage motors - requiring much lighter batteries - that are basically silent and practically undetectable. It all could have been solved by just growing the rear centres a bit. You might take a look at Jansz in the hotel. Sweet, good to hear youre liking the coil shock on that frame, which I think shares similar progression as the Rune. Im totally down with adjustable chainstays - and hope all the nerd brands will get on the program - but I think the key is for the short positions to also get longer (no point in being adjustable if everyone just runs it in the longest position). I have since gone to cartridge-based PNW droppers. Doing a mullet with Smash stays is slightly less slack (63.4 / 75.8 / 334) but I'd still like to see the numbers a bit more normal before I go buy a new rear wheel. It's a question for riders who will be buying a new bike within the next couple of model years. Super Duper Ultra Boost Double Plus. At 172 cm with an average inseam there are times when I have to manual off a drop while going down a steep incline that I get a serious buzz that can be a bit distracting at a the wrong time. Privacy Policy. Its success with mixed wheel sizes across all five frame sizes will certainly influence the future of the Stumpjumper, Stumpy EVO, and Enduro, not to mention the direction of other large mountain bike manufacturers. One bike for me. Now, I've been beating the longer chainstay drum for a while and I'm also already used to a long back end running approximately 460mm stays on my Waltworks and I have to say since ride one on the Banshee Titan I'm testing I've not had a single ride where I wished the rear end was shorter. That said I am not a 9.8 fan boi. The Focus SAMis the German brands enduro eMTB. Wed like to see the next Turbo Levo SL packing more torque and more adjustable geometry, enabling it to thrive on a wider range of trails. Alas, I'm guilty too. Stoked to read your thoughts on the TitanI have a V3 Rune and am flat impressed at the versatility of this big bike. Weighing just 16.9kg in its lightest configuration (S-Works model, size small), this lightweight motor-assisted machine changed the game, shaving around 4kg compared to Specializeds standard Turbo Levo. Bring the mullets As long as this simplification you mention doesn't mean they stop making 27.5 front tires or 29 rear tires. The e13 SS is what I'm running, and availability in their EN1 casing has been so far great, but I'm going to nudge over to the DH because I apparently lack the skill to around cacti, so I'll accept that through them gets it done. The Decoys geometry is looking somewhat outdated four years after its launch. 2. If anyone can set the concepts right, I'd be very happy. I havent tried it myself, but apparently an old 8spd SRAM trigger works well enough with a 10spd/11spd Shimano clutch derailleur. I keep going back to Exo style rear tires, because they are fast and that makes my big enduro 29er bike really fun. The updated Epic design we see in race shots from the Shimano Supercup Massi Banyoles looks jam-packed with new offerings from Specialized. Surely someone is looking to change it in the name of progress :-), It would need to look quite different though, otherwise "I bent my hub" becomes a thing. So true. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. My cornering is just not as good, because of properly weighting the bike. The Magura are scarce out here, so I'm still too worried about being without service parts, while anything in the Shimanoverse I'm covered to some extent. I can guess its all about tall riders and dinky stays but when I see guys riding one of these bikes they are sitting really upright. It's not impossible, but not easy. I second this. While that all sounds quite on-trend, its geometry, especially the 75-degree seat tube angle, is a little conservative by todays standards. Dual crown for longer travel forks only makes sense. I run the adjustable dropouts as far back as they go. Yes, another way to wring a few more bucks out of your new riding pants. I would prefer more choices, but 9.8 isn't bad. Cookie Notice By signing up for email newsletters, you agree to BikeRumor's, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window). I can't ride them comfortably and I've never had a problem sliding forward on a saddle for a steep section so the benefit for climbing seems overblown. Even if Starling went under there's nothing on their bikes you couldn't get repaired if you wanted to. Try adding 10mm to ur stem on ur current bike. Spy Shot: A Next-gen Prototype RockShox SID SL Ultimate XC MTB Fork for Nino Schurter? My oldest 9.8 is on its 5th year in 2021 and going strong with the other one I have being on its 3rd or 4th year. Centrelock gets a check once a season and have never found it needing adjustment. It isn't perfect but it's good. Based in Pittsburgh, PA Jordan spends his time coaching cyclists of all abilities with Cycle-Smart, racing bikes around North America, and adventuring with his family. Im not sure that the majority of riders are on it though. See the 35mm Boxxer v. 38mm Zeb. Thats all great. And yes, we know we said. A counterpoint is that if brakes are powerful enough for current DH and Enduro racers then maybe rotor size and pad compounds are where development will continue and a rider a decade from now will be experiencing an only somewhat refined Magura MT7 or SRAM Code compared to today. Subscribe to MBUK and get a pair of Crankbrothers Stamp 1 pedals as your welcome reward! I get stuff isnt as visible without the OE penetration - I also understand why these smaller brands focus more on winning one customer at a time than OE - but product support can still be very, very good. A purpose-built link yields a 2.8:1 leverage ratio, and milks bump-devouring performance from its 110-mm rear travel. The manufacturers tell us short stays are more (I despise this word) playful. Agree: longer is better, almost all of the time. Which explains why most bikes in XS or XXL are an annoying afterthought to most manufacturers. I still have my '08 SURLY Karate Monkey, it's now my "dedicated" commuter, but it served me as commuter, trail bike and everything in between for 10 years until I got my "new" Kona UNIT, which is now my go to, preferred bike with either 29x2.6" or 29x3.0" rubber. However, we were able to see that the frame itself was made out of carbon tubes joined by metal lugs, a design similar to that of Atherton Bikes. Disc Brakes @Mammal - Ditto on rubber swappin'. (1985). It sports 29" wheels, is priced at $11,500 AUD, comes in a range of sizes, including S2, S3, S4, S5, has RockShox suspension and a SRAM drivetrain. Most bike shops have already had to sign up for their 2022 commitments, as the industry attempts to guess how much mountain bike sales will drop off once folks are allowed to go back to bowling, yoga and squash. Oh, also Vivax went out of business during this e~bike boom because that's not what riders actually want. Seems like I have got it dialed and broken in nicely so it would be a shame to move on now. Local shops are all oversold on 2021 models, many of which haven't even shipped yet. Whether it's Pivot or Devinci that gives in first, I don't see a trail version of 157x12 surviving another couple of model years. Of all the places on my bike, brake levers make the most sense for carbon/plastic. But the risk is real, and even moreso when travelling. With the trends towards 2.6" max-sized tires and longer stays those initial reasons for adoption are pass. Maybe I'm just old, but the Bottlerocket is still the bike I think of whenever anyone mentions Transition. Pretty sure there have been no changes to the enduro since they moved away from the x-wing design in 2020. Based in Amsterdam, Green House Seeds have gained . I think the 90's seemed crazy and wild because the limiting factors were everywhere - we're now seeing convergence which seems less fun because they're all so good that diminishing returns are a serious factor, and if a new idea has merit but doesn't work in the first iteration, it gets found out right away because the rest of the parts are good enough (in the 90's, a kinda bad prototype could get through a few design cycles before we figured out that the rest of the bike build wasn't the only part holding it back). Aside from that rational reason (ability to tighten on trail) I have had a personal experience with Centrelock that was both my scariest component failure and my scariest moment on a bicycle in my life and I'm fine with admitting that affects my bias against the system. Read also: However, its uncertain if we will see the return of this enduro eMTB after Focus stopped production of its non-electric counterpart. Rebuildable at home. To me, my hope is actually that Shimano doesn't redesign the Saints (although those remain scarce). As a shorter rider (165cm), I am thinking that a higher bottom bracket gives me some help positioning myself over the rear wheel. It sports 29" wheels, is priced at $8,100 AUD, comes in a range of sizes, including S2, S3, S4, S5, has RockShox suspension and a SRAM drivetrain. [GREAT article here: https://www.vojomag.com/test-magura-mt7-4-leviers-3-paires-de-plaquettes-et-2-disques-sur-le-terrain/] The brakes themselves cost about double so it's a tough sell for me. Maybe. I'm thinking maybe 2022 for tubes to be welded up. I don't care about weight much so if it was my bike it would be the CCDB for sure. But the tires wear out fast, tearing side knobs etc and I even had a couple of snakebites this season. For example, Vivax is old tech that wasn't developed by a major player and it's still only 4lbs with a battery and can easily be hidden in a steel seat tube or downtube - never mind other frame materials with easily manipulated shapes.
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